Before the alleged murder of Victor Ebarle Jr, Jason Ivler was involved in another incident back in 2004.

Ivler, who came back to the Philippines during a break period in college, was driving his Toyota Land Cruiser when he rammed into an Isuzu Trooper, killing its driver, Undersecretary for Resettlement Nestor Ponce Jr.

Jason was charged with reckless imprudence resulting in homicide for Ponce's death. He posted bail, but was eventually caught in Zamboanga City while trying to catch a ferry bound for Malaysia. The Bureau of Immigration then issued an order preventing Jason from leaving the country.

But he was able to return to the U.S. The fugitive eventually joined the military in 2007, despite a warrant for his arrest pending in the Philippines. The NBI only knew that Jason was in the country when he was exposed as the Ebarle Jr's alleged killer.

Marlene had a different view of the 2004 incident. "He was coming home. And in the morning, hinatid niya lahat ng kasama niya, siya na lang ang hindi lasing. Kinuhanan namin ng photographs yung mga sasakyan, di ba?"

Besides, Marlene said Ponce's death was not Jason's fault because it was "an accident."

"Of course! It was an accident. This is what's stupid of the masses, they call that murder. It's not murder. A car accident is a car accident, no matter how it is. Kahit ano pang, how it happened. No matter what explanation," she said.

CHANGES FROM WAR. Marlene was less responsive when PEP inquired about Jason's career in the military, and his eventual "honorable discharge."

In various interviews, Marlene said that before her son was discharged, he was detained and "forced to admit things" about his family.

But Marlene admitted that she felt there were "changes" in Jason when she returned home from the Iraq war. In this part of the interview, Marlene gave her answers in pieces.

"He didn't come back right away, he was in the States for a while. Of course he's changed, you know? If you read the post-traumatic stress disorder... they're saying that... he lost a lot of innocence," she said.

Was he still the same Jason?

"In many ways. At core, he is," she said.

And were there concrete changes that you know about?

"He hated America's wars. He became more defiant against America's wars," she said.